At what point in your life did you get your shit together

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    Re: At what point in your life did you get your shit together

    Post by damo suzuki on Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:07 pm

    any grownup accomplishment, like ironing a shirt
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    Re: At what point in your life did you get your shit together

    Post by Nick on Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:42 am

    I am interviewing two people today. One has included their GPA on the resume and the other their frat and how they organized their university homecoming.

    These are young people getting their shit together.
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    Re: At what point in your life did you get your shit together

    Post by undo on Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:37 pm

    Past 3 weeks have repeatedly confirmed that I do not, in fact, have my shit together.

    Need to take a few drastic, or at least powerfully symbolic, changes in my life in the very near future.
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    Post by undo on Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:38 pm

    Nick wrote:I am interviewing two people today. One has included their GPA on the resume and the other their frat and how they organized their university homecoming.

    These are young people getting their shit together.

    The kids are coming up from behind.
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    Post by yancy on Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:49 pm

    undo wrote:Need to take a few drastic, or at least powerfully symbolic, changes in my life in the very near future.
    Looking forward to the private forum thread.
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    Post by undo on Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:08 am

    undo wrote:Past 3 weeks have repeatedly confirmed that I do not, in fact, have my shit together.

    meanwhile, this kid was one year behind me in high school and was a friend of a friend

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._J._Fleck
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    Post by Duff... on Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:26 am

    Wiki hasn't caught up yet but I bet that dude's life is falling apart.
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    Post by Ted Falconi on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:44 pm

    This guy was in my grade from jr. high on, and he and his brother were legends in Illinois high school soccer in the 80s:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Snow

    The answer to this question, btw, is "opened a pizza place in Indianapolis".
    And yes, epic assholes, both of them.
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    Post by Guest on Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:56 am

    The guy makes a living selling pizza and you're calling him an "epic asshole." eh

    Is it just really bad pizza?
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    Post by Paves on Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:44 am

    My guess is that there are other things about their personalities that make them assholes. Did that not occur to you?
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    Post by Ted Falconi on Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:03 am

    I don't know if the pizza is good or not. Pizza is usually good, so I assume his is delicious.
    I don't judge people on how much money they make selling pizza, but rather how they conduct themselves. Wikipedia entries are usually pretty flattering of their subjects. Steve Snow's refers to him as a 'cocky twerp', and from my experience, that's an extremely charitable summary of his personality.

    That Papa John guy has made himself super rich from selling pizzas. He also happens to uncontroversially be a complete total and utter asshole.
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    Post by damo suzuki on Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:02 am

    I've heard the Papa Johns guy called an asshole before. But is it all really rooted in the fact the guy was against ObamaCare?

    Seems like I barely heard trash talk about Papa John till this year because of that Obama thing.

    Papa Johns and Dominoes are pretty neck-n-neck for what I consider the worst pizza possible.
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    Post by Soma on Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:58 am

    Most frozen pizzas are one hundred times worse.
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    Post by undo on Fri Mar 22, 2013 12:37 pm

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    Re: At what point in your life did you get your shit together

    Post by raj gibson on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:10 pm

    I don't like the Papa Johns dude either but there's some false equivalence at work in that comparison
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    Post by chrondog on Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:31 pm

    Someh wrote:Most frozen pizzas are one hundred times worse.

    there's some false equivalency in this comparison too

    frozen pizza is delicious even though it makes me feel like i'm eating wood shavings
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    Post by coyote on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:48 pm

    undo wrote:
    Need to take a few drastic, or at least powerfully symbolic, changes in my life in the very near future.

    How about:
    - looking into some of the things that make you "small" and start doing the extreme opposite (if you don't talk much at all to people, talk all the time to them, if you dont want to spend time with people, spend a ton of time with them, if you spend too much time at the computer stop or completely limit it, go slow if you normally go fast, etc).
    - call up a family member that caused you pain in the past and confront them. this can change your life
    - pick one activity that you are afraid to do (karoake, public speaking, performing at open mics) and do that every day for two weeks
    - read about true heroes (MLK, Ghandi, Bonhoeffer, etc) and study the Hero Archetype. realize no one truly becomes human painlessly. Meditate on how you can become the PERSONAL hero. what do you need to work on, give up, sacrifice, develop, create, in order to become this vision?
    -take time to develop a strong inner world that is impervious to the bullshit of the outer culture.
    -do something random and bizarre every weekend (go to a mosque for services, stand at the top of the hancock building and meditate, build a sacred shrine in the forest and create a ritual).
    -develop rituals in your life that create meaning in your actions. YOU can CREATE meaning in your life.
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    Re: At what point in your life did you get your shit together

    Post by coyote on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:55 pm

    you sir, need to get CRAZY!
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    Post by Guest on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:02 pm

    You pay taxes and support a massive war machine that is killing Afghan children. You're not a hero and you are never going to be.
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    Post by coyote on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:08 pm

    wp64 wrote:You pay taxes and support a massive war machine that is killing Afghan children. You're not a hero and you are never going to be.

    You are not going to save everything with your actions, true. Heroes come in all shapes and sizes.

    not implying by dropping out of college to start a blog or something is on the level of MLK. but still if it's where you truly need to be then take the chance
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    Post by Guest on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:27 pm

    Probably the only thing worth doing is not focusing on self-improvement and try to collectively organize action against something you have a grievance towards. If you want to be happy then you have to do that by being happy with others.

    The happiness that comes with "getting your shit together" is not happiness but security. Security is important as well, but should not be mistaken for some sort of flourishing happiness.
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    Post by coyote on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:33 pm

    right now i'm just thinking that 'getting your shit together' can be defined as seeking out what you really want to achieve either personally or for others and taking action to do so.

    the self improvement you think is not part of the process i would think would be crucial (seeking knowledge, taking better care of yourself, changing by going through extremes, experiencing pain of breaking from cultural norms and so on). it is one and the same as getting your shit together.
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    Post by Guest on Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:44 pm

    Yeah, but to go about applying your definition of self-improvement to the context of this thread is dangerously anachronistic. The majority of the thread is devoted to various boarders talking about finally achieving financial security and now being able to focus on emotional needs.
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    Post by coyote on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:32 pm

    wp64 wrote:Yeah, but to go about applying your definition of self-improvement to the context of this thread is dangerously anachronistic. The majority of the thread is devoted to various boarders talking about finally achieving financial security and now being able to focus on emotional needs.

    so i'm outside of the majority opinion on what getting your shit together entails and i'll live with that.
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    Post by Bruegel on Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:36 pm

    have you moved back into your own house yet avec?

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