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    thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by Ted Falconi on Fri Dec 28, 2012 7:56 pm

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    Post by raj gibson on Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:35 am

    an adventure for 4-6 Congressmen
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by raj gibson on Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:36 am

    game nearly comes to blows after Pelosi planeshifts Boehner into the paraelemental plane of quantitative easing
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by Nick on Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:01 pm

    Thought Obama was great on MTP. Seems impossible a deal will get done in time so Happy New Year.
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by Ted Falconi on Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:50 pm

    hmmmm....
    Scenario #1: House Republicans are just blowing off some steam this afternoon, but they'll eventually realize they have limited options, bite the bullet, and pass the deal with some Democratic votes.

    Scenario #2: The vast majority of House Republicans will balk, but the chamber won't want to be blamed for destroying everything, so a sliver of the caucus will join Democrats and grudgingly pass the package. This will raise questions anew about John Boehner's career, and turn up the volume on scuttlebutt about Cantor running for the Speaker's gavel this week.

    Scenario #3: House Republicans will amend the Senate deal, make it more Tea Party-friendly, and demand that the Senate approve their new version. This will necessarily force the entire process to collapse.

    Scenario #4: House Republicans will pass two bills, the Senate's bipartisan agreement as-is, and a separate bill filled with spending cuts. The Senate would ignore the second bill, but it might make the House GOP feel better about itself.

    Scenario #5: House Republicans will kill the Senate bill, there will be an enormous political freak out, and there will be hell to pay at the start of the new Congress.
    http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/01/01/16286608-house-gop-skeptical-of-bipartisan-fiscal-deal
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by Ted Falconi on Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:30 pm

    LWS perspective, pretty interesting:
    Try to imagine, if you can, Steny Hoyer and Jim Clyburn pulling a similar kind of stunt on Nancy Pelosi. It's impossible to imagine. That's why I think we are quite possibly witnessing less of a freak-out over the terms of the deal than we are seeing a palace coup.

    It's just hard to see how or why the GOP caucus would reelect Boehner as their Speaker if they so obviously do not trust him or want to follow his lead.
    http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2013/1/1/19829/40075
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    Post by chrondog on Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:20 pm

    I feel like I'm letting the media/politicians when by even paying attention to this manufactured bullshit.

    Months and months of Armageddon talk for this: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/nascar-gets-nice-little-70-million-perk-fiscal-203238580--nascar.html
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by reuben on Fri Jan 04, 2013 1:53 pm

    Just got my first paycheck with increased FICA withholding. Thanks a lot, left-wing savages!
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by chrondog on Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:09 pm

    i can't believe a temporary payroll tax cut was ever part of the solution to an economic downturn

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    Post by phixed on Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:27 pm

    reuben wrote:Just got my first paycheck with increased FICA withholding. Thanks a lot, left-wing savages!
    i'm curious to see what happens to mine. lil' phixed might have to settle for chuggington train sets moving forward. /hardliving
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by reuben on Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:41 pm

    Do you guys know how many minifigures I could have bought with that money? At least 8 per week!
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by reuben on Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:44 pm

    When taxes are low Legoland thrives. Why don't those latte drinking limp-wristers understand that?
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by yancy on Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:56 pm

    Today is payday for me. My checks vary a bit each period, so I never know exactly how much to expect, especially after withholdings & taxes. The net direct deposit looks pretty normal to me. shrug.gif

    Meanwhile my small business owner friend, normally a cynical leftist atheist after my own heart, gets red in the face anytime taxation (sorry, "wealth redistribution") is mentioned. Nevermind the fact that he lives in a gated community and bought his wife a fully loaded Chrysler 300 with cash last month. Yeah man, the system's really fucking you over.
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    Post by Duff... on Fri Jan 04, 2013 4:18 pm

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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by Duff... on Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:43 pm

    So there isn't any hope we can just get rid of the debt ceiling altogether is there.
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    Re: thread of Fiscal Cliff FREAKOUT

    Post by tjenz on Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:35 pm

    We're one of two western industrial democracies that have a debt ceiling, Denmark is the other.
    The risk of not raising it in time far out weighs any benefit.


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