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    Re: Futebol

    Post by Bruegel on Wed 13 Mar 2013 - 17:48

    they should be putting the Europa below the league cup in terms of priorities next season if they want to get back in the CL.

    i'd be fielding the U16s.
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    Post by chrondog on Wed 13 Mar 2013 - 17:49

    Bruegel wrote:oh, they gave a shit. they just thought a low tempo match would get them over the line. and they were proved right. just.

    fair. i just thought they would've picked key moments to go uptempo and try and get one goal. end of the first half/beginning of the second half i expected some quick passing for sure.
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    Re: Futebol

    Post by undo on Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 3:44

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    Post by Bruegel on Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 11:20

    ^ lol

    it was still actually an illegal corner because you can't determine if there are multiple contacts when he flicks it up

    they outlawed addressing the ball like that from set-pieces after Willie Carr/Ernie Hunt's famous 'Donkey Kick' for Coventry in 1970:



    the initial edit misses it but you can clearly see it in the replay.

    In 1970 Coventry scored one of the most famous goals in the history of the game. In their home game against Everton F.C., City were awarded a free-kick on the edge of the Toffees' penalty area. Willie Carr proceeded to grip the ball between his ankles before flicking it up into the air behind him for Ernie Hunt to volley it over a bewildered Everton wall and into the top corner. Though the 'Donkey kick' was allowed to stand, the FA banned the technique on the grounds that it constituted a 'double-touch' of the ball. Aside from changing the laws of the game, the goal also won the Match of the Day 'Goal of the Season' competition.

    that was later extended to include single foot flicks because of doubt over "continuous contact"

    would love to see some more footage from that Kazakh game. long gone are the days that they would allow play in those conditions in most professional leagues. fair enough i suppose but a great loss to the low comedy tradition of farce.
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    Post by Bruegel on Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 11:38

    you can still flick the ball up yourself after a touch from a team mate, obvs. see 4:00 in this vid about Le Tis:



    worth spending a few hours watching Le Tissier youtubes, if you are not acquainted (or even if you are)
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    Post by Paves on Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 15:37

    reuben wrote:Jasper I'm not trying to rip on you, but I think that when you use words like "obviously," "to be sure," "certainly," "always," etc., you come off as a more of a self-proclaimed expert than you might intend to.

    I really miss out on a lot of insightful shit by not opening sports threads, huh!
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    Post by Paves on Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 15:38

    That isn't sarcasm, btw.
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    Post by Paves on Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 15:41

    Or maybe it is. No idea, really.
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    Re: Futebol

    Post by reuben on Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 15:43

    I didn't think it was at first but now I am starting to have my doubts.
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    Post by Paves on Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 15:45

    Now I'm remembering why I don't open sports threads.
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    Post by Paves on Thu 14 Mar 2013 - 15:47

    Nick wrote:Jasper - I did not neg your posts and enjoy your contributions as one of the few soccer fans on the board. I'd ask that you stop with the neg attack. This outburst seems beneath you and is a bit surprising.

    While I'm here, let me just give some propz to this post from "the Nick persona," the wording of which amuses me greatly.
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    Post by chrondog on Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 1:23

    Bruegs, what a crazy finish in the Magpies vs. Makhachkala game today huh?

    Anzhi play some pretty attractive football. I've been wanting to see some of their games and this was a good chance. Would watch again. Les Geordies have some great flair too. Marveaux turning out to be quite the player (sometimes). I wish Cabaye wasn't so fragile.

    I liked the quotes from Guus after the game, too.
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    Post by Bruegel on Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 3:34

    Love watching Le Toon atm. Looking forward to seeing them in the flesh when I visit my bro next month. Gonna take my little Geordie nephew (Alfie) to the Fulham game. Might even let him have a cheeky glass of French vimto.


    Spurs match last night was hilarious. Loved how both sets of players were equally wtf at the final whistle.
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    Post by Bruegel on Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 4:00

    i must have been smoking some pretty potent shit last night because i'm sure i saw a 40-year-old Argentinian dude beat Aaron Lennon in a foot race on at least two occasions.
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    Re: Futebol

    Post by Nick on Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 11:09

    Malaga v Dortmund
    Real Madrid v Galatasaray
    PSG v Barca
    Bayern v Juve

    Still think Real, Bayern or Juve can stop Barca.
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    Post by Pete Best on Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 14:26

    Also think Dortmund could on a good day for them, bad day for Barcelona.

    I would expect Spurs and Chelsea to finish on roughly the same points, I don't think Arsenal will have a shot at 4th on the last day.

    This time next month, Gills hopefully will be up!
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    Post by Guest on Fri 15 Mar 2013 - 18:34

    Bruegel wrote:Spurs match last night was hilarious. Loved how both sets of players were equally wtf at the final whistle.
    http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/espnfcunited/id/4228?cc=5901
    Pretty good read on the Inter Milan season thus far. I really hope they can somehow qualify for the Champion's League next year. They need to fire Marco Branca after these consecutive terrible transfer windows. I guess it isn't that surprising that they did not have a competent lead striker in case Milito went down, but they are going to pay for that now.

    Walter Samuel should be back for Sunday's match-up against Sampdoria, which should help out Handanovic and the defense. Someone is going to have to step up though if they want to close the 4-point gap between them and the current Champions League qualifiers. Maybe Ricky Alvarez? Oh, and it sort of goes without saying but Zanetti and Cambiasso need to maintain their always excellent form.
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    Re: Futebol

    Post by undo on Sat 23 Mar 2013 - 14:21

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    Re: Futebol

    Post by Nick on Sat 23 Mar 2013 - 20:28

    The US match was entertaining because of the snow but I have zero confidence in this team. I think they will have to fight just to get the second qualifying spot. Mexico is going to take them apart.

    I could see them losing all 3 group matches in Brazil regardless of the draw. This team is the culmination of years of failure to develop youth players and successfully produce any talent in the domestic league that can translate to the international stage.

    The mentality of "They are the USA, they are supposed to suck at soccer" would have passed in the 90s. But at this point the national team is an embarrassment and Major League Soccer ranks somewhere between domestic leagues in Wales and South Africa.
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    Post by chrondog on Sun 24 Mar 2013 - 0:42

    Nick wrote:Major League Soccer ranks somewhere between domestic leagues in Wales and South Africa.

    i don't think most people even know this, which is a huge problem. people think MLS is "on the right track" just because they're starting to televise Dynamo vs Sounders games on ESPN that no one watches.

    Nick wrote:This team is the culmination of years of failure to develop youth players and successfully produce any talent in the domestic league that can translate to the international stage.

    this is why i hate assholes like Bruce Arena sniping from the outside trying to delegitimize any building process. we needed to drop the whole "win now AND develop players!" fantasy years ago and stop insisting that this team win a single damn game until this qualifying stage. instead we hyped up friendlies against Italy and Belgium and are still talking about Landon Donovan's nonsense.


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    Post by Nick on Tue 26 Mar 2013 - 11:44

    Klinnsman era is going to take a big step towards coming to an end tonight. I'm predicting a 4 - 0 win with a Chicharito brace.

    This US team is in trouble and a Mexican side that is struggling themselves will exploit that.
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    Post by chrondog on Tue 26 Mar 2013 - 14:42

    Chicarito has been unheralded for Manchester United this season, but I think he's having a pretty good campaign. Maybe I'm just missing the wrong matches.

    I don't think the letdown of playing Costa Rica in the snow was a good warm up for this match and I also fully expect us to get clobbered down the wings.
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    Post by Nick on Wed 27 Mar 2013 - 7:49

    Guess my prediction was off! Better result for the US than Mexico, obviously.
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    Post by chrondog on Wed 27 Mar 2013 - 14:20

    Giovani Dos Santos is absolutely terrible and he's exactly the kind of inconsistent, overconfident player that derails the entire Mexican side. seems to me like there's a lot of pressure within Mexico to stuff the team with flare players and "stars" at the expense of quality. that would explain their run of three bad draws in a row. they didn't look good at all last night.

    U.S. looks like they don't have any chance of scoring against a respectable side. the build up is very very slow and our forwards aren't technical enough for the one-twos needed to break into the penalty area. Dempsey is not on form coming back from injury. i see how Hercules Gomez is the best option right now because of his work rate, but the forward of the future for 2014 doesn't seem to be on the field right now. and i don't think Landon Donovan is the missing piece either.

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