who is the greatest coach of all time?

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    who is the greatest coach of all time?

    Post by undo on Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:13 pm

    Keeping in mind that he might not be the guy who's won the most championships or has the best record, I mean some of those guys were especially lucky to have really great players on their team, you know what I mean?
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    Post by reuben on Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:26 pm

    Any sport?
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    Re: who is the greatest coach of all time?

    Post by Nick on Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:30 pm

    Vince Lombardi. Not only because I'm a Packers fan but because of how he changed the game from a strategic standpoint and a player / coach relationship standpoint.

    He was the first coach that had his players 100% committed to him and would do anything for the man. He backed his players up and supported African Americans and gay players when it was unheard of.
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    Post by Soma on Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:58 pm

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    Post by zappo on Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:50 am

    Two words: Ditka.

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    Post by yancy on Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:03 am

    I don't know much about sports, but I love how fucking ruthless and matter-of-fact Bill Belichick is. Also a huge fan of Gregg Popovich.
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    Post by Bruegel on Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:38 am

    grudgingly, SAF is the greatest "manager" of all time but that's a whole different ball game (in a whole different ball game)
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    Post by Michael K. on Sun Dec 29, 2013 3:37 pm

    This question seems unusually difficult to answer. It's impossible to separate a manager and success, but there are great teams w/ mediocre managers and fantastic managers who had terrible teams. And then there's experience bias - hard to judge a manager w/o actually seeing many of a team's actual games. So much of what makes a manager excellent is tactical.

    I love Billy Beane and what he's doing w/ the A's. I'd call him the greatest modern era general manager in baseball. That's about as definitive as I can get.
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    Post by chrondog on Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:39 pm

    John Wooden at UCLA. The structure of college basketball is such that the coach has almost complete power over the team, and Wooden's combination of coaching, recruiting and leading built a lasting institution while winning 88 straight games and 10 NCAA championships (7 in a row) in the process. He competed against the entire collegiate ranks, not just a 20-30 team professional league, and triumphed despite the inherent luck and craziness in the NCAA tournament.

    this wasn't a bad idea either:

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    Post by Nick on Sun Dec 29, 2013 4:49 pm

    I don't think college sports should count because they're kind of bullshit.
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    Re: who is the greatest coach of all time?

    Post by undo on Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:30 pm

    reuben wrote:Any sport?
    yes

    Bruegel wrote:grudgingly, SAF is the greatest "manager" of all time but that's a whole different ball game (in a whole different ball game)
    who is SAF?

    I wanted to include "managers" too, I've never really understood there to be a difference between a manager (futbol, baseball) and a coach (everything else?).
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    Re: who is the greatest coach of all time?

    Post by Soma on Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:58 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Alex_Ferguson

    'Grudgingly' because Ferguson managed Man U and Bruegel isn't enough of a cunt to not be from the general Manchester area and still support them.

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