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    Re: this is a basketball thread

    Post by Ҩ on Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:19 pm

    chrondog wrote:I just assumed because of the neg on the post. It's cool either way!

    My Cavs hatred is immense, so it was disappointing they pulled it out today. They deserve to lose with how shit they are most of the time. I would be ecstatic if they didn't make the finals.

    I love watching Giannis play. He has the look of a killer in his eyes.
    I don't understand how Paul George isn't taking that final shot. Giannis is really fun. That block on DeRozan near the end of that game was awesome. DeMar's reaction was pathetic and so were the refs for giving Giannis a totally undeserved technical.

    I guess I'll do this...
    EAST:
    Celtics in 6
    Cavs in 5
    Bucks in 7
    Wizards in 6

    Boston (over Washington) in 7
    Cavs (over Bucks) in 5

    Cavs in 6

    WEST:
    Warriors in 4
    Spurs in 5
    Rockets in 6
    Utah in 7

    Warriors (over Utah) in 4
    Spurs (over Houston) in 7

    Warriors in 4

    FINALS:
    Rematch from last year. Warriors in 4.
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    Re: this is a basketball thread

    Post by vIv on Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:38 pm

    Ҩ wrote:
    chrondog wrote:I just assumed because of the neg on the post. It's cool either way!

    My Cavs hatred is immense, so it was disappointing they pulled it out today. They deserve to lose with how shit they are most of the time. I would be ecstatic if they didn't make the finals.

    I love watching Giannis play. He has the look of a killer in his eyes.
    I don't understand how Paul George isn't taking that final shot. Giannis is really fun. That block on DeRozan near the end of that game was awesome. DeMar's reaction was pathetic and so were the refs for giving Giannis a totally undeserved technical.

    I guess I'll do this...
    EAST:
    Celtics in 6
    Cavs in 5
    Bucks in 7
    Wizards in 6

    Boston (over Washington) in 7
    Cavs (over Bucks) in 5

    Cavs in 6

    WEST:
    Warriors in 4
    Spurs in 5
    Rockets in 6
    Utah in 7

    Warriors (over Utah) in 4
    Spurs (over Houston) in 7

    Warriors in 4

    FINALS:
    Rematch from last year. Warriors in 4.

    I think you are underestimating the West. I think Portland will get at least one from the Dubs. And whoever comes out of Spurs-Rockets will take the Warriors to at least 5-6 games, I would guess.

    I would love for the Celtics to come out of the East, but I fear you're right that LeBron will take over. And then Dubs-Cavs III will be a snooze, I say Dubs in 5.
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    Re: this is a basketball thread

    Post by Ҩ on Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 pm

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    This team makes no sense! Holy shit!
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    Post by zappo on Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:15 am

    After we win the Finals and he is named MVP, they're going to have to rename the award to MVZ.
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    Re: this is a basketball thread

    Post by zappo on Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:37 pm

    Hondo is dead. Fuck you, Thibs.
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    Post by zappo on Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:55 pm

    Y'all heard that Thibs killed Steve Kerr or whatever? Fucked up, man.
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    Post by zappo on Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:56 pm

    Pretty sure he took out Griffin, too. Probably used his ties to Doc Rivers to get in there and cut off his foot/toe.
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    Post by Ҩ on Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:35 pm

    That Bucks game was incredible. Giannis should have pulled up over Lowry and that ended up costing them the game.

    It would feel pretty good to be a Bucks fan right now though. That's going to be a very exciting basketball team if they can stay healthy (and ditch Jason Kidd).
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    Post by zappo on Thu May 04, 2017 1:21 pm

    All I'm going to say is that Thibs spent a lot of time with the Spurs when he was otherwise away from the game, a few years ago.
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    Re: this is a basketball thread

    Post by chrondog on Fri May 05, 2017 9:27 pm

    It's destiny that Head Coach Mike Brown will soon be snatching a championship from LeBron's greasy hands. Payback.



    This is a photo I snapped of the Warriors coaching staff enjoying lunch at a panini place near the practice facility in September of last year. It's where the seeds were sown for Coach Brown to take over this team in an emergency situation. Best of health to Steve Kerr, he is a good person.
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    Re: this is a basketball thread

    Post by undo on Mon May 08, 2017 1:39 pm

    https://www.si.com/nba/2014/11/13/ryan-anderson-gia-allemand

    this is old but I didn't know anything about this
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    Post by chrondog on Tue May 09, 2017 11:10 pm

    I completely forgot about it. It's especially hard to read now given what happened to Monty Williams' wife. I feel good thinking about them being able to support each other: http://newsok.com/article/5478324
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    Post by Ҩ on Wed May 10, 2017 12:37 am

    I didn't know about Ryan Anderson's girlfriend either. That's very sad. Sad

    The game tonight was easily the best of the playoffs. Harden with three turnovers in OT, Danny Green shooting lights out, but more importantly MANU turning back the hands of time, drinking from the fountain of youth, etc.

    That blocked shot was so sick though, seriously.
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    Post by Ned Braden on Thu May 11, 2017 1:04 pm

    That is my best friend's name. Didn't realize somebody called that was an nba star.
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    Post by vIv on Tue May 16, 2017 1:34 pm

    Basketball I've got seventh row seats to Game 2 of Dubs-Spurs tonight Basketball

    Bummed that Kawhi won't be playing, but otherwise hella geeked.

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    Post by zappo on Tue May 16, 2017 1:49 pm

    That's fucking sweet.
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    Post by chrondog on Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:51 pm

    chrondog wrote:It's destiny that Head Coach Mike Brown will soon be snatching a championship from LeBron's greasy hands. Payback.

    LeBron is basically King Joffrey to me at this point. I need to see him utterly destroyed.

    We're well on our way.
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    Post by Michael K. on Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:41 am

    Ҩ wrote:
    chrondog wrote:I just assumed because of the neg on the post. It's cool either way!

    My Cavs hatred is immense, so it was disappointing they pulled it out today. They deserve to lose with how shit they are most of the time. I would be ecstatic if they didn't make the finals.

    I love watching Giannis play. He has the look of a killer in his eyes.
    I don't understand how Paul George isn't taking that final shot. Giannis is really fun. That block on DeRozan near the end of that game was awesome. DeMar's reaction was pathetic and so were the refs for giving Giannis a totally undeserved technical.

    I guess I'll do this...
    EAST:
    Celtics in 6
    Cavs in 5
    Bucks in 7
    Wizards in 6

    Boston (over Washington) in 7
    Cavs (over Bucks) in 5

    Cavs in 6

    WEST:
    Warriors in 4
    Spurs in 5
    Rockets in 6
    Utah in 7

    Warriors (over Utah) in 4
    Spurs (over Houston) in 7

    Warriors in 4

    FINALS:
    Rematch from last year. Warriors in 4.

    Well this looks to be pretty fucking spot on.
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    Post by Ҩ on Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:35 pm

    Yeah. I really wish the Bucks could have completed that incredible game six comeback against the Raptors. They might have given the Cavs some actual competition in that Eastern conference semi-final, but probably not. Hopefully Jabari can stay healthy for a full season because him, Giannis, Thon, Brogdan, and future draft picks would be a lot of fun in the future.

    These playoffs have been disappointing. I love watching the Warriors and I'm fine with them destroying the Cavaliers. LeBron caused enough heartache for me over the years that this is actually somewhat enjoyable, but long-term something has got to give. These playoffs have been an absolute snooze and barring something crazy like CP3 to the Spurs next year won't be any better.

    I don't begrudge Durant or the Warriors, but this is just a bunch of crazy circumstances all aligning to basically destroy the competitiveness of this league (Curry's history of ankle injuries allowing for a ridiculously low contract, the rise in cap space allowing for one of the best teams in basketball history to sign the second best basketball player in the world in free agency, striking gold with Draymond in the second round, and having bird rights on both he and Klay which means this league is fucked for the foreseeable future). They didn't even have their expected hit in their depth because players like JaVale have had productive minutes in the playoffs.

    Oh well.
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    Post by chrondog on Tue Jun 06, 2017 3:12 pm

    Light years ahead, mate
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    Post by chrondog on Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:27 pm

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/warriors/2017/06/07/open-letter-bored-nba-fans-cant-stop-talking-warriors/

    Dear NBA writers,

    I’ve seen a few of you claim that you’re bored lately, and I have to laugh.  It’s silly.  Nothing in your personality screams “easily bored!”  I don’t think many people actually think of you as bored.  Ratings for the NBA Finals are at historic highs.  You can’t stop talking and writing about the “trilogy” of match-ups between the Warriors and the Cavs.  The boredom is a contrived storyline in an NBA spring when most of the storylines are contrived.

    You’re stumped.  That’s all.  Our Golden State Warriors are 14–0 in the NBA playoffs.  They’re 29-1 over the last 30 games, with the only defeat a meaningless game against Utah that Steve Kerr had to work hard to lose (McAdoo threes!).  The Warriors are going to beat the Cleveland Cavaliers for the championship unless LeBron James does something incredible, like turn Tristan Thompson into Anthony Davis.  And then we will celebrate with Steph Curry, Draymond Green, Klay Thompson and Steve Kerr, and … well, here’s the truth:


    I’m more impressed by each of them than I was a year ago.  Really.  A year ago, the Warriors assembled the best NBA team I’ve seen in my lifetime.  And this year, they built a team that’s even better — smarter, tougher, deeper, wiser.  Last year, Steve Kerr and his team overcame the adversity of their coach missing the start of the regular season.  This year, Kerr and his team overcame the adversity of suddenly missing him for the first three rounds of the playoffs.  You take the Warriors’ success during his absence as a sign of his irrelevance.  I take it as a sign of the ethic he’s managed to instill.  Curry is a back-to-back MVP with the humility to take a diminished role in his prime to improve his team.  Green and Thompson are players who could be the best players on average teams, but like Curry have shown the character and wisdom to trade the fleeting glory that comes from being the best piece of something not that good, to be essential pieces of something historically great.  In a culture that fetishizes “teamwork,” they’ve been hypocritically criticized for putting the good of the team above their own individual glory.  You would have been happier seeing them play more selfishly and inefficiently, to see more triple-doubles, to see them lose more.

    And Kevin Durant … who, with his Oklahoma City Thunder, nearly beat the 73-win Warriors in the playoffs last season.  His team — up 3-1 against the Warriors —  might have won had they played a system that emphasized the quality of shots rather than the people taking them, or if they spent more time on their defense and less time being defensive about their individual acclaim.  The match-up could have set up an epic duel this spring, except Durant had the nerve to seek out teammates he believed would make him better, a system where he thought he would be appreciated, and a city where he hoped he could start a new rewarding chapter in his life.  Durant and the Warriors broke no rules to make this overwhelming collection of talent possible.  They were the beneficiaries of a front office that resurrected a two-decade joke of a franchise by making one savvy move after another.  They collected smart, high-character individuals who created a culture in which others wanted to play.  Like most success stories, they had a fair amount of luck.  And here we are: on the verge of a record-setting ring, and some people writing articles for major sports publications are claiming they’re bored.

    You may not care what I think.  That’s fine.  Nobody can make you care.  But I’m going to explain it anyway.

    The problem with your Warriors experience is that revenge is more fun when you’re not the target.  You joked endlessly for a year about blowing 3-1 leads, you took one petty personal shot after another at a player for having the audacity to make a decision he believed would improve his life, you lived one hot take at a time, basking in clicks and likes and comments.  It was not surprising or interesting.  Everyone rubbernecks.  You enjoy mocking failure more than admiring success.  You brushed aside undeniable injuries and lobbied-for NBA intervention.  You blasted one “super team” while portraying another — created by signing the NBA’s best player as a free agent and a statistically improbable series of number one picks — as the archetype of franchise-building purity.  It reeks of condescending double-standards — comparing grown men at the top of their profession to a Little League team assembled by parents.  They’re going to win, and they’re going to do it by playing at a level we’ve rarely — if ever — seen.  You can denigrate it if it makes you feel better (and don’t forget to cavalierly dismiss their coach’s debilitating and career-threatening pain.  Please.).  But your pettiness will put you on the wrong side of history.

    You whine about the overwhelming talent on the Warriors, but the three finalists for MVP wear other jerseys.  You spend the last year talking about how overrated they are, how they choke at the biggest moments.  But now that they’re living up to expectations, thriving under the brightest lights, you dismiss it as expected.  You bow down to the self-proclaimed “greatest basketball player in the world,” and in the next breath portray him as the victim of bullying.  You breeze past the heroic comeback of Shaun Livingston, the veteran intelligence of Andre Iguodala and David West, the rugged toughness of Zaza Pachulia and rare poise of Patrick McCaw and Ian Clark as “special effects.”  You forget all the supposed “super teams” that came before them that ended up not being that super because often these stories don’t have movie script endings.

    If I see one more writer construct false narratives about fan responses the Warriors’ success, I’m going to get physically ill.  Warriors fans claim their team has overcome so many hurdles this year to succeed?  Hardly.  We were laughing about being “light years” ahead last July.  Warriors fans care so much about others liking their team?  Come on.  We’ve embraced the heel turn, but don’t lie to yourself about why you hate us.  This is like a guy who bailed on Microsoft stock in 1990 or kept shorting Warren Buffet picks.  Your bitterness isn’t admirable; it’s foolish.

    This Warriors team isn’t unprecedented in my time watching the NBA.  There have been dominant NBA teams in the past, and — like this team — the principals all had to build toward dominance.  Against San Antonio in 2013, Curry, Thompson and Green had to learn what separates exciting teams from dominant ones.  After losing to Los Angeles in 2014, Warriors’ management had to risk disrupting something comfortable to create something great.  And after losing to Cleveland in 2016, the Warriors had to come to terms with suffering the NBA’s worst playoff collapse, then get back to work to avenge it.  There have been times when the Celtics, the Bulls, the Lakers, the Spurs and the Heat have towered over their competition.  People took shots at their greatness back then too.  You just don’t remember them, because they ended up — like the current complaints inevitably will — in the dustbin of history.

    So, get it all out while you can.  Deliver embarrassing pop-psychology lectures to Kevin Durant about how “there is no way this championship will be as gratifying as a championship with the Thunder would have been.”   Preach from your all-knowing perch about how “no intelligent basketball fan believes you found a missing quality inside yourself this year.”  From behind your keyboard, with nothing on the line but the Google Adsense revenue from your white hot take, explain to a 28-year old man how he “didn’t have to become a better leader, or become mentally tougher, or learn how to will your team to victory, or finally beat the last guy standing in your way. You just got better teammates. The End.”  Tell us all how “we, as a sports-loving society, have become absurdly narrow-minded in our assessment of great players,” while you become absurdly narrow-minded in your assessment of a great team.

    Ultimately, we will enjoy our next two wins.  We will enjoy our championship.  I will gush that we “finally did it,” because this one-season steamrolling is a natural extension of all the suffering, adversity and growth that came before it — for Warriors fans, and for the Warriors’ players.  I will compare Steph Curry, Kevin Durant and LeBron James, because they will have made different choices, carried themselves differently and exemplified different values.  But you’re right that this series will not tell me anything I didn’t already know — because those differences ultimately have nothing to do with whether the Warriors win or lose.

    I do know that winning won’t be easy forever.  Players age and get injured.  Opponents rise.  In a year or two, the Warriors will trail in a playoff series and be in real danger of losing.  And maybe that’s when when you’ll be interested again.  That’s your loss, but not my problem.  I’m not missing — or taking for granted — a second of this.

    Take care,

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    Re: this is a basketball thread

    Post by Ҩ on Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:12 pm

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2714372-fred-hoiberg-reportedly-a-top-candidate-for-ohio-state-head-coaching-job
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    Post by chrondog on Fri Jun 09, 2017 4:38 pm

    Draymond Green is three days younger than I

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