RogerMexico Is Not Pleased w/ P4K

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    RogerMexico Is Not Pleased w/ P4K

    Post by phixed on Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:31 pm

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    Post by Nick on Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:11 pm

    What is this about?
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    Post by undo on Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:35 pm

    Nick wrote:What is this about?

    http://agrammar.tumblr.com/post/359990238/the-rules-of-the-game-a-fuller-thought-on-j
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    Post by Nick on Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:56 pm

    So it is a long blog post about Vampire Weekend & being white?
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    Post by Soma on Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:57 pm

    Two things white people really love right there.
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    Post by zappo on Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:00 pm

    The links says that the Tweet is referring to this:

    The Unbearable Whiteness of Indie
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    Post by Paves on Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:13 pm

    I read this article today.
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    Post by Paves on Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:18 pm

    Honestly, every time I read one of their "thinkpieces" or profile of some artist that I don't listen to I just feel like this site is written by and for nine year olds. It's all kind of entertaining, though.
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    Post by Nick on Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:23 pm

    Yea that is some amateur click bait looking to "start a conversation" but really just helps them increase their ad rates.
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    Post by zappo on Thu Mar 26, 2015 9:37 pm

    I didn't realize that Pitchfork had "thinkpieces." Are they all this awful?
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    Post by raj gibson on Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:34 pm

    Thought this article was kinda goofy but it did inspire a kinda interesting discussion I am following on Facebook between some non-white indie rock dudes.

    Not sure if there was any confusion to this effect but OP tweet is not me ftr.
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    Post by Soma on Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:55 pm

    That isn't even a picture of a band, it's the cast of Stuart Murdoch's film. They may as well have called the article The Unbearable Whiteness of Scotland.
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    Post by Ҩ on Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:48 pm

    This is really obvious but it would be useful if the writer of that P4K article actually defined what exactly she meant by "Whiteness." That's sort of a weird paradox in criticism because race is often approached in a 'deconstructive' manner, exposing its fluidity. But somehow the same approach isn't often given to whiteness itself, which sort of leaves it as this empty signifier of whatever we perceive as majoritarian culture.

    Although the real issue is probably just that conversations like this absolutely cannot take place on internet music websites or blogs and have absolutely nothing to do with Vampire Weekend.
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    Post by Paves on Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:52 pm

    It's pretty goddamn obvious that Pitchfork has the Unbearable Whiteness of Indie to thank for its rise to power.  It is not "music," but rather this "UWoI" which provides the foundation for the glorious empire that Grand Wizard Ryan Schreiber and Co. have amassed.  And they sure as heck aren't fooling anybody with this thought-provoking editorial!
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    Post by reuben on Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:00 pm

    Hey maybe the article is actually called "Whiteness of Being" and the rest of that title is just editorializing.
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    Post by reuben on Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:01 pm

    Why aren't there more persons of color making music that sounds like Camera Obscura?

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    Post by Pete Best on Mon Mar 30, 2015 6:26 pm

    Belle and Sebastian a very odd target for that article. I counted the number of people on their LP covers, it was around 20.

    I did enjoying imagining how many pages the thread on SOMB would have been 7 or 8 years ago.
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    Post by Duff... on Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:58 pm

    While we're complaining about terrible Pitchfork thinkpieces, holy jeez:

    http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/718-ted-cruz-and-the-conservative-takeover-of-mainstream-rock/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=general&utm_campaign=thepitch
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    Post by Ҩ on Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:26 pm

    Wait, Marco Rubio is a Public Enemy fan? dubstep dubstep

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    Post by reuben on Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:15 pm

    flavortown

    http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/music_box/2015/04/against_indie_new_albums_from_modest_mouse_sufjan_stevens_and_more_show.html

    "The Only Way to Save “Indie” Is to Eliminate That Outdated and Racist Term for Good"
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    Post by Soma on Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:41 pm

    I laughed at this sentence:

    As Meloy explained in interviews, “That was my imagining the viewpoint of a singer in a band.”


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