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    Post by WP64 Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:16 pm

    Am I missing something?
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    Post by WP64 Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:37 am

    Ned Braden wrote:Very real question: do any of you know the best organization to donate to that is working to defeat Donald Trump in November?
    Traditionally in representative liberal democracies such as our own, this would be accomplished by supporting Trump's electoral rival. Unfortunately, the opposition Party has coalesced around a deeply conservative old man who is demonstrably losing his mental acuity, has credible accusations of sexual assault to manage (which are being largely ignored by the corporate-friendly national media whose interests he champions), and a history of family corruption and nepotism. Despite all of these obvious barriers to his electoral viability, he has a very legitimate chance to become the 46th President of the United States. If your primary political objective is removing Trump from office, you should donate to the Democratic Party and canvass. If you are Spain, talk to other Navy officers who are eligible to vote.

    What are the alternatives? You could talk to your friends about armed revolutionary movements and the importance of the Russian equivalent of the Navy in supporting the workers of Moscow and Saint Petersburg in 1917, which paved the way for the Soviet seizure of State power. There are historical precedents for these sorts of things. Let me know if any of them are into that and I can get them in contact with some people to start organizing!
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    Post by Ned Braden Sun Apr 19, 2020 4:06 am

    WP64 wrote:Am I missing something?

    I mean, it’s everything. But specifically I was looking at those “LIBERATE STATE 2nd AMENDMENT BLAH BLAH” tweets where he was basically inciting terrorism to own the libs.
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    Post by Ned Braden Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:17 am

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    Post by undo Sun Apr 19, 2020 11:53 am

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    Post by zappo Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:12 pm

    I'm sorry, Ned, but that chick is so hot. Fuck, man.
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    Post by zappo Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:13 pm

    A Something-Less-Than-Great Moment in White Girl History, right there, but damn.
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    Post by Ned Braden Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:39 pm

    zappo wrote:I'm sorry, Ned, but that chick is so hot.  Fuck, man.

    LOL you aren't wrong!
    I am holding out hope that she was doing this ironically. Still though, even if so, she still attended one of those stupid rallies, so not a good call.
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    Post by WP64 Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:23 pm

    Ned Braden wrote:
    WP64 wrote:Am I missing something?

    I mean, it’s everything. But specifically I was looking at those “LIBERATE STATE 2nd AMENDMENT BLAH BLAH” tweets where he was basically inciting terrorism to own the libs.
    Then donate money to the Democratic Party and canvass for their candidate. That is how you would unseat Donald Trump in the next election. Biden is a candidate that irrefutably alienates a lot of the most active elements of the Democratic base. They also do not have an answer to the millions of Americans who lost their employer-based health insurance this month during the middle of a fucking global pandemic. Their response is literally that those unemployed workers have the "freedom" to choose a plan that works for them on subsidized healthcare marketplaces. We literally have EMTs in this country who are working without health insurance while Joe Biden puts out televised ads saying that he will be even tougher on the Chinese government than Trump. It's indefensible.

    But whatever. This is where we find ourselves and I don't disagree with you that Trump is really uniquely fucking evil and that Biden and his cabinet would bring some stability and competence to the Federal government. But if you are looking for a place to invest your money or your time to defeat Trump, the answer is Joe Biden and the Democratic Party. It is that simple. Sanders is still sending out funding emails right now trying to get people to donate because they realize that Biden has a campaign problem and is unable to actually generate any enthusiasm beyond the Party's elite donor class of narrow special interest groups. So I encourage you to do that and help them out. eh
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    Post by Ned Braden Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:46 pm

    You had me at “donate money to the Democratic Party and canvass for their candidate.”
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    Post by Ned Braden Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:51 pm

    Was mostly looking for a link or wondering if it would be better to donate directly to the Biden campaign.
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    Post by undo Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:34 am

    I'm not attracted to her at all. She's not my type and then there's the problem of her entire worldview

    You thought I was going to keep my opinions about her to myself? You thought wrong!
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    Post by Michael K. Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:30 pm

    Styling doing a lot of legwork. None of us have any idea what she looks like behind those piercings and big sawnglazzes and her morals are obviously decrepit. I'm with unod.
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    Post by Ned Braden Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:02 pm

    You are 100% correct.
    And yet I'm still entirely, unstoppably into it.
    Human attraction really is the god damn worst thing about our overwhelmingly stupid fucking existence.
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    Post by WP64 Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:47 pm

    I am deep into Jesus Jones vibes lately. We really are totally fucked. I just don't see how Biden can win this election. Like, really... I do not see it.
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    Post by Nick Fri May 01, 2020 11:30 am

    Our man Biden killed it again this morning!
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    Post by zappo Fri May 01, 2020 3:12 pm

    god bless the usa god bless the usa god bless the usa
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    Post by undo Tue May 05, 2020 1:03 am

    zappo wrote:P.S.  The two Undo posts at the top of this page are the greatest posts I've seen in like 50 years.

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    Post by WP64 Thu May 21, 2020 1:01 am

    The Biden campaign's official statement on the movement to boycott, divest, and sanction in order to peacefully advocate for Palestinian (human) rights is beyond pathetic. The official statement suggests that the movement "too often veers into anti-Semitism" without providing any evidence and then adds, "while letting Palestinians off the hook for their choices." Just truly fucking unbelievable...
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    Post by Nick Thu May 21, 2020 5:29 pm

    Count me in guys. Klobmentum. He did it. He is uniting the party.





















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    Post by zappo Thu May 21, 2020 5:38 pm

    Laughing so hard that I cannot breathe. There are no emojis. Holy fuck.
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    Post by WP64 Thu May 21, 2020 8:49 pm

    The Democratic Party treats us worse than MJ treated Scott Burrell.
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    Post by WP64 Fri May 22, 2020 11:06 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/22/black-americans-joe-biden-democratic-party-relationship

    That is a good article, for anyone that might be interested.
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    Post by undo Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:02 pm

    Why should Biden's running mate be a WOC?

    This is just between me and you: isn't this the definition of pointless tokenism?

    Like, if you have to conduct a search for such a candidate, maybe you should realize from the beginning that this is probably not a good idea to begin with?

    Of course, they're so publicly deep into it at this point that of course they can't go back on this promise.

    Neg me if I deserve it, please.
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    Post by BGwaves Fri Jun 19, 2020 2:56 pm

    WP64 wrote:The Democratic Party treats us worse than MJ treated Scott Burrell.
    I just laughed so hard at this

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