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    Post by C-poots Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:40 pm

    around half way through The Odyssey and I've got to say, it is boring me a bit. I'm happy to get some more of the 'literary canon' out of the way so I can act like I understand Ulysses when I read it and not too much like a liar, but I'm going to be honest and say I'm not loving it.
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    Post by Guest Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:48 pm

    I've got a week left in this year long project on Althusser so that has been keeping me pretty occupied. I have sort of half-read Hard Times by Dickens and re-read Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad though. Both were for a comparative literature class I am enrolled in this quarter.

    The class kind of sucks because all of the students just masquerade their thoughts with weird analogies to Hegel's lord-bondsman section in the Phenomenology of Spirit. I hate it when people hide behind things like that because it destroys all thought. I am not going to take the time to unpack the relationship between what you are saying to fucking Hegel just so that I can respond to your comment about a fictional character. Rawwwrrrr!
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    Post by zappo Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:43 pm

    I'm reading some awful book because some hot chick at work said I should read it. I not even sure of the name of it. The Name of the Wind, I think...? Anyway, she's half-Jewish!
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    Post by zappo Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:45 pm

    And thin!
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    Post by zappo Tue Apr 29, 2014 10:48 pm

    Anyway, the book is awful. I've read a number of horrible books about Indian cinema, recently. Times are tough. Gonna get started on the Markson book about Under the Volcano, in the next week or two. Gotta reread the Lowry book first, though.
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    Post by C-poots Fri May 09, 2014 12:49 am

    Basically done with The Odyssey. It improved some in my eyes, and having read some more background on it and some of the questions the literary community (...) have come up with regarding life beyond the novel/poem, I guess I can find more to think about wrt Odysseus and fam.

    Whatever, don't feel like writing a dissertation on it right now.

    Prob gonna try to tackle The Good Soldier Švejk again next, after I do a bit of WWI research.
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    Post by Michael K. Fri May 09, 2014 4:49 am

    The Odyssey is boring. It's a good story, but the execution isn't interesting because of translation, oral history, etc. It isn't literature, is my point.

    Currently reading The Art of Fielding and I quite like it.
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    Post by C-poots Fri May 09, 2014 10:31 am

    Weird point of view to say The Odyssey is not literature without giving a little more than 'translation, oral history, etc'. I would not question it as a piece of lit for even a second so I'm curious as to what you mean.
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    Post by ClosetOfExhaustion Fri May 09, 2014 12:00 pm

    started the Wind Up Bird Chronicles
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    Post by Michael K. Fri May 09, 2014 2:47 pm

    C-poots wrote:Weird point of view to say The Odyssey is not literature without giving a little more than 'translation, oral history, etc'. I would not question it as a piece of lit for even a second so I'm curious as to what you mean.

    That was a dumb thing to write and I was really tired when I wrote it. To expound (just a little bit) further, I don't think it lends itself to examination by close reading, rhetorical tropes, or analysis of theme in the same way that most books in the canon do. The Odyssey reads like an accounting of events rather than an event in itself. Which makes perfect sense because the book is more closely a part of oral tradition than it is written. There's very little detail to the vignettes that make up the book, and in spite of being long, it could've been 10x longer. I respect it and think it lays a great thematic and narrative upon which a bunch of other works have been built, but I don't enjoy reading it or thinking about it in the same way I do, e.g., (parts of) Ulysses or Mrs. Dalloway or The Sound and the Fury or a host of other things. The strokes are so broad and I deal in minutiae.
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    Post by C-poots Tue May 13, 2014 4:40 pm

    Good commentary I pretty much agree with that.

    Just re-started Svejk and I'm enjoying it much more this time already. With a slightly better understanding of WWI and European geography it seems to make more sense. Also reading it at a bit slower pace has helped to pick up on some of the nuance of the Svejk character.
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    Post by Bruegel Sat May 17, 2014 9:31 am

    got this for my Mom yesterday because she loves trees and beautiful books:

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    Post by Bruegel Sat May 17, 2014 9:35 am

    on the subject of trees, spotted this in the Queen's Wood near Highgate yesterday:


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    for a grim moment, from a distance, I thought it was a decapitated head.

    the hair was tied to a nail. all a bit True Detective.
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    Post by Duff... Sun May 18, 2014 12:47 am

    That's a sharp looking book.
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    Post by C-poots Mon May 26, 2014 12:12 pm

    Svejks Budejovice Anabasis has been such a good chapter, I'm not really sure where the book can go from here except down, tho I'm hoping I'm a fool and it continues to be this enjoyable and funny and biting.
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    Post by C-poots Tue May 27, 2014 11:55 pm

    This book could use a bit of editing, that is for sure.
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    Post by Bruegel Wed May 28, 2014 4:05 am

    that would miss the point in such an epic way that I'm tempted to incorporate it as a plot line in a satirical farce lampooning the cultural malaise and convention servitude of western civilisation 2014-2018
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    Post by C-poots Wed May 28, 2014 8:28 am

    Post could use a bit of editing, thats for sure.
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    Post by Bruegel Wed May 28, 2014 4:58 pm

    The Fateful Adventures of a Bohemian During the Age of Cultural Conservatism
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    Post by C-poots Wed May 28, 2014 5:09 pm

    I do like the book a great deal actually so don't get me wrong, I think its really witty, funny, enjoyable, jarring, etc. And when asked what I would edit I can't actually pick something because all of the incessant talking is obviously integral to the novel's progression and the Svejk character. but at times I feel as though Hasek is playing a trick on all of the readers, treating us exactly as just another of Svejk's military seniors would be treated, pruning nothing of Svejk or his compatriots' speeches for our own experience. This very well might have been his intention and I think it is an added level of wit and comedy, but that does not mean that there aren't moments where I go slightly nutty from the endless stream of anecdotes.
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    Post by Bruegel Wed May 28, 2014 5:24 pm

    Props! 


    yeah, that is certainly intentional. quite a lot of nuance gets a lost in translation, particularly in the case of the more provocative devices. on first reading, i had similar issues with Don Quixote.
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    Post by Pete Best Wed May 28, 2014 7:44 pm

    Similar topics;

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    Post by WP64 Fri May 30, 2014 3:27 am

    I have to read the entirety of The Mayor of Casterbridge this weekend and write a 10-page paper. I've been putting it off for a while because, seriously, nobody has fucking time for this type of bullshit. It should be illegal for anything to be this dry. Thomas Hardy needed some literary vagisil.
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    Post by Gene Bootcut Fri May 30, 2014 4:07 am

    I found ten books that I'd presumed long lost in a cabinet I never go into. Amongst them were Brave New World and In Cold Blood, two novels I don't think I would enjoy very much if I read them as an adult.
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    Post by Gene Bootcut Fri May 30, 2014 4:12 am

    Ҩ wrote:I have to read the entirety of The Mayor of Casterbridge this weekend and write a 10-page paper. I've been putting it off for a while because, seriously, nobody has fucking time for this type of bullshit. It should be illegal for anything to be this dry. Thomas Hardy needed some literary vagisil.

    wp, I felt the same way about Far from the Madding Crowd when I tried to read it, but that degree of clinical dryness isn't present in Tess of the d'Urbervilles or Jude the Obscure, both of which are well worth your time. I actually would have imagined Hardy is a writer you would admire on an ideological basis, particularly his poetry, which I don't have an opinion on because I don't enjoy reading poetry.

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