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    Post by Ned Braden on Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:13 pm

    man look at this t shirt



    From the northwest herald, chicago suburbs.
    Knew both of the local guys in this article back in the day. The dude with the badass shirt and stache wrestled in the same conference as me, but I don't think we ever faced off head to head. As I recall, he was pretty good.
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    Post by Ned Braden on Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:16 pm

    Basically when my dad showed me this article I thought of myself as Gordon Bombay and these dudes are Mike Modano and Basil McRae
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    Post by Bruegel on Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:17 pm

    i was wondering if you'd had any dealings with Guida.

    its only the inherent wrestling bias in mma judging that gave him a win in that fight; gets out-struck for one third of the fight and spends the other two thirds desperately clinging to top position/narrowly avoiding submissions. people love his shtick but if you take away the adhd routine and tasmanian devil aesthetic you're left with a deeply average fighter.

    Mike Russow, the other Chicago dude on the card, ended up getting TKO'd because he blew his wad trying to finish in the first round. he's any incredibly durable and flabby cop - not the kind of man you'd like to steal a donut from.


    highlights of that card were:

    TJ Grant elbowing "Handsome" Matt Wiman into the 'seeking a new nickname' ranks:




    and Anthony Pettis incorporating another off-the-cage strike:



    finished Cerrone with a shin to the liver too:

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    Post by Ned Braden on Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:47 am

    Oh man these guys are just pulling out all the stops

    MMA is the "child porn" of sports

    lol!
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    Post by Ned Braden on Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:15 am

    I'd like to get a look at that Hickey dude's hard drive. I get the feeling there'd be some eye opening stuff, guy clearly knows his way around the fucked up, exploitative pornography game.

    Madam, they took the gloves off when we weren't watching.
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    Post by Bruegel on Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:03 am

    oh shit:



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    Post by Ned Braden on Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:20 pm

    Definitely read "Bellator" as Belladonna and thought of that Porn Houndz thread.
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    Post by yancy on Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:32 pm

    As soon as He Kexin steps in the octagon, it's the child porn of sports. Until then I guess it's fair to call it the porn of sports.
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    Post by chrondog on Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:43 pm

    sometimes i forget that people don't realize how many times more safe MMA is than boxing
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    Post by Bruegel on Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:24 pm

    whoa, He Kexin in a banana split! I think I just came.
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    Post by Duff... on Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:33 pm

    jasperness wrote:sometimes i forget that people don't realize how many times more safe MMA is than boxing

    Probably safer than futbol americana.

    Though I guess that's a different discussion.
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    Post by Bruegel on Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:31 am

    I'd advise avoiding gifs of the Weidman/Silva conclusion if you are of a queasy disposition.
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    Post by zappo on Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:03 pm

    Have you guys seen these new Silva action figures? Probably the most realistically articulated toys I have ever seen.

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    Post by yancy on Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:08 pm

    How did I not predict that hipsters would embrace boxing now that MMA is the fight of choice for mainstream bros?



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    Post by Bruegel on Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:46 pm

    was walking through Bethnal Green today and I noticed this place in Paradise Row...





    fascinating dude:

    wiki wrote:Before Mendoza, boxers generally stood still and merely swapped punches. Mendoza's style consisted of more than simply battering opponents into submission; his "scientific style" included much defensive movement. He developed an entirely new style of boxing, incorporating defensive strategies, such as what he called “side-stepping”, moving around, ducking, blocking, and, all in all, avoiding punches. At the time, this was revolutionary, and Mendoza was able to overcome much heavier opponents as a result of this new style. Though he stood only 5 feet 7 inches (170 cm) and weighed only 160 pounds (73 kg), Mendoza was England's sixteenth Heavyweight Champion from 1792 to 1795, and is the only middleweight to ever win the Heavyweight Championship of the World. In 1789 he opened his own boxing academy and published the book The Art of Boxing on modern "scientific" style boxing which every subsequent boxer learned from.

    Mendoza helped transform the popular English stereotype of a Jew from a weak, defenceless person into someone deserving of respect. He is said to have been the first Jew to talk to the King, George III. Mendoza was second for Tom Molineaux, a freed Virginia slave, in his fights.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Mendoza
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    Post by Nick on Sun Jul 26, 2015 12:02 am

    UFC would be awesome if both fighters killed each other.
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    Post by Bruegel on Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:45 am

    Watch the Lawler/McDonald war from a couple of weeks back. They almost did!
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    Post by Bruegel on Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:53 am

    Before:




    During:



    After:

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    Post by Nick on Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:38 am

    Glad that mouthy broad got knocked out!
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    Post by Ҩ on Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:50 pm

    Apparently one of my wrestling coaches as a teenager was training the other fighter.
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    Post by Ned Braden on Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:07 pm

    yancy wrote:How did I not predict that hipsters would embrace boxing now that MMA is the fight of choice for mainstream bros?

    Guy's a bit over the top with his "all boxers >>> MMA fighters" shtick, but still a pretty decent take:

    http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/ronda-rousey-has-to-be-the-most-over-rated-athlete-of-all-time/
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    Post by Bruegel on Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:16 am

    Id describe it as a pretty bad take.

    As overated as Rousey is, a coach with one iota of strategic nouse will be able to put together a gameplan in which an Olympic judoka is able to exploit the chinks in Holm's takedown defence. If Edmond Tarverdyan coached Ronda for 100 fights against Holm and told her to chase her round the cage getting punched in the face then she would probably lose most of those contests. If she was instructed to weather the striking advantage by actually attempting some defence whilst calmly persuing the takedown, I think quite a few of those 100 contests would go the other way.

    As for the "all boxers would destroy all MMA fighters" arguement...they would...at boxing. However, if they're trying to do it off their backs, it wouldn't go so well. We've seen that, its called UFC 1.

    What history shows us is that 100% of pure boxers lose MMA fights. As soon as they have done enough training to practice effective takedown defence they are, by definition, mixed martial artists.
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    Post by Ned Braden on Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:08 pm

    Those are all solid points, and I don't disagree. I guess the part of that article I most agreed with was in the headline itself. After something like 12 fights against meh opponents, folks were calling her greatest female athlete on the planet. Just seemed ridiculous.
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    Post by Bruegel on Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:09 pm

    Folks will say any old shit to flog a fight. Not unlike clickbait writers.

    The funniest bit of that article is that champion boxers would do exactly what Holly did.

    What? Train MMA for 8 years, do it pro for 4, win a kickboxing title and secure victory with a head kick?
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    Post by Nick on Tue Jun 07, 2016 3:41 pm

    U'd think Kimbo Slice was the Ali of MMA the way he's getting covered on the internet today.

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