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    Post by WP64 Mon May 23, 2016 4:39 am

    So I never came through on that Bowie thread because I suck but at some point during the summer I am going to unveil a massive Tom Waits thread. I've been falling in love with this guy 4 the last year and I have been too embarrassed to board about it but he has easily become my favorite musician.

    Sometime around August I will probably get working on that.
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    Post by Nick Mon May 23, 2016 8:16 am

    I'd be interested to read a passionate take on that guy because I can't get into his stuff.
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    Post by Duff... Mon May 23, 2016 2:21 pm

    Do Bowie instead.
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    Post by Gene Bootcut Mon May 23, 2016 4:46 pm

    U're gonna run out of unique things to say by the 4th piano-lounge album if U cover Waits's entire career. Bowie would be better.
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    Post by Ted Falconi Mon May 23, 2016 7:40 pm

    Do them both . Together in one thread, in chronological order.
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    Post by reuben Mon May 23, 2016 7:55 pm

    Do Bette Midler too.

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    Post by Nick Mon May 23, 2016 9:39 pm

    Props!
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    Post by WP64 Tue May 24, 2016 5:26 pm

    Soma wrote:U're gonna run out of unique things to say by the 4th piano-lounge album if U cover Waits's entire career. Bowie would be better.
    Oddly enough this actually been what has been attracting me more and more to people like Tom Waits (and Leonard Cohen). I'm just sick of the way in which think-piece culture co-opts Bowie's personas and creates this faux-narrative where he was some big ambassador of LGBT rights. I know it is super conservative and reactionary to think that way but it really pisses me off actually. I had friends who went to the Bowie museum thing last year and all they wanted to talk about is how Bowie realized that gender was fluid all the way back in the 1970s. I don't know. That might be true but it is really suspect to start thinking of cultural icons in that way because he also went through a drug-induced psychotic breakdown where he was doing the Nazi salute in public places so that kind of throws a fucking wrench in that.

    I just find it boring and so I have become attracted to figures that can't be politically or sociologically reduced to progressive causes. Leonard Cohen is another perfect example. His life has absolutely no parallels to my own so it becomes impossible 4 me to appropriate. He is a trust fund baby who never had to work a day in his life, is an academically trained poet who spent a lot of time in monasteries, and performed 4 the Israeli Defense Forces. I can't relate to any of that and there isn't an interesting spin that I can put on that biography. He doesn't speak to me or 4 me in anyway but his music has a beautifully transcendent quality that pails in comparison to a lot of hipper artists.
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    Post by WP64 Tue May 24, 2016 5:34 pm

    Nick wrote:I'd be interested to read a passionate take on that guy because I can't get into his stuff.

    This is off the first album which is before he started using the iconic cement-mixer voice of his so it is maybe a little more approachable. I sort of think of him as Billy Joel 4 a more thoughtful and engaged audience that doesn't mind being challenged a little bit and in that way he is kind of the perfect artist 4 me.
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    Post by Nick Tue May 24, 2016 5:49 pm

    I've listened to that album and it just sounds like some piano bar crooner gimmick with The Cookie Monster on vocals.
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    Post by zappo Tue May 24, 2016 6:01 pm

    Hadn't listened to this 4 a while. Holds up, in my opinion.

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    Post by undo Tue May 24, 2016 6:21 pm

    Ҩ wrote: I'm just sick of the way in which think-piece culture co-opts Bowie's personas and creates this faux-narrative where he was some big ambassador of LGBT rights. I know it is super conservative and reactionary to think that way but it really pisses me off actually.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429736/david-bowie-renaissance-man-legacy
    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429710/david-bowie-transgenderism-mistaken-link-blot-his-good-name
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/429557/david-bowie-was-brilliant-businessman

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    Post by Ned Braden Tue May 24, 2016 6:26 pm

    Jesus fuck I thought I was in the dead thread and almost lost my shit.
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    Post by Ned Braden Tue May 24, 2016 6:31 pm

    Can't think of many artists who R (seen as?) hipper than Cohen, but I think I get what U're saying Ҩ
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    Post by WP64 Tue May 24, 2016 6:38 pm

    Damn, that second article gets real nutty real fast.
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    Post by reuben Tue May 24, 2016 6:58 pm

    Ҩ wrote:I sort of think of him as Billy Joel 4 a more thoughtful and engaged audience that doesn't mind being challenged a little bit and in that way he is kind of the perfect artist 4 me.
    I think U're describing Randy Newman.
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    Post by WP64 Tue May 24, 2016 8:10 pm

    Reuben is going off on this page. Goddamn.
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    Post by Duff... Tue May 24, 2016 10:45 pm

    zappo wrote:Hadn't listened to this 4 a while. Holds up, in my opinion.

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    Post by Gene Bootcut Wed May 25, 2016 3:00 am

    U don't have to talk about lesbian, gay or trans rights. Just briefly mention his haircut at the end of every review.
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    Post by chrondog Thu May 26, 2016 2:13 pm

    this song is a like a glass full of Tequila Sunrise

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    Post by WP64 Thu May 26, 2016 11:48 pm

    Holy shit... That's amazing.

    I need that in poster size 4 my apartment.
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    Post by Ned Braden Fri May 27, 2016 12:20 am

    Duff... wrote:Do Bowie instead.

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