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    Post by Ned Braden Sat May 28, 2016 2:16 am

    Well... I guess to counterpunch, I'd say that U lumping all modern guitar music into the big pile of shit based on meeting waaves once and not liking the vampire weekend guy, coupled with using "Trinidadians" as a synonym 4 "actually cool" is some waves within level nonsense.
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    Post by Ned Braden Sat May 28, 2016 2:30 am

    Not that I don't C where U're coming from. Your references to recent personal experiences make it clear and relatable why U're into a certain type of music at the moment, and that's something we all deal with. I was just hanging out with crazy mountain hermits last week and as a result, all I really feel like listening to is bluegrass, Willie Nelson, and Herb Alpert (why they were so into that guy, I don't know, but still cool).

    But I can be in this place and not feel the need to be aggressively dismissive of shit I haven't even heard.
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    Post by _ Sat May 28, 2016 2:53 am

    can't believe that dude wanted to tell jokes at a party instead of talk to some kid about his dead friend
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    Post by WP64 Sat May 28, 2016 5:30 am

    Even at the time I just figured that was why he didn't want to talk about it, which is obviously fine. That didn't have much to do with my general dissatisfaction. I just thought it was hilarious that they figured they could just waltz into this party and be treated as minor celebrities. It was just kind of pathetic and weird.

    And that is a fair counterpunch. It's less that I am into any certain type of music though. I just don't have any of the nostalgia that Chrono was referring to. I mean, I did similar shit. I was super excited about going to P4K music festival every year. I loved Animal Collective and I thought MGMT's first album was a seminal contribution to rock music or something.

    But now I just think that's all stupid. Most of the shit I listened to didn't hold up at all. I think I would be more open to being nostalgic if there was an actual working narrative around these bands that made sense. But there isn't. So there isn't even a fun way to reflect back on it. Like, how could U be excited about a resurgence of something that never was able to build a sense of itself the first time around?
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    Post by reuben Sat May 28, 2016 6:44 am

    Ned Braden wrote: (the best kind of baseball is the kind that isn't modern imo).

    Negro League >>>>>>>> Modern Baseball
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    Post by WP64 Sat May 28, 2016 7:09 am

    Satchel Paige lit that league up!
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    Post by undo Sat May 28, 2016 2:35 pm

    I don't really consider music from 2008-2010 to be "classic" indie rock at all but I'm not in my early 20s anymore and no one cares what I have to say.
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    Post by Michael K. Sat May 28, 2016 3:20 pm

    Ҩ wrote:
    Michael K. wrote:Ignorant disregard is the personality trait I've probably been happiest about leaving behind as I've grown older.
    Good 4 U. Now U can age like fine whiskey alongside the first LP from Car Seat Headrest. I hope U find satisfaction in this... wank wank wank wank wank wank wank wank

    Fine whiskey doesn't age - it already is aged -, this is the 12th LP from Car Seat Headrest, and my enjoyment of it now has nothing to do w/ whether or not I enjoy it in the future. Just happy to hear non-ironic guitars in music from 2016. Not every artistic statement needs to be profound, not every engagement needs to be critical, and not every opinion needs to be treated like its detrimental to your own.
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    Post by undo Sun May 29, 2016 2:01 am



    I've been off 4 a week and I've gotten high almost every night

    I wish that was as awesome as it sounds like it should be but at least I have some good music so it's not a total disaster
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    Post by WP64 Sun May 29, 2016 6:12 am

    Michael K. wrote:
    Ҩ wrote:
    Michael K. wrote:Ignorant disregard is the personality trait I've probably been happiest about leaving behind as I've grown older.
    Good 4 U. Now U can age like fine whiskey alongside the first LP from Car Seat Headrest. I hope U find satisfaction in this... wank wank wank wank wank wank wank wank

    Fine whiskey doesn't age - it already is aged -, this is the 12th LP from Car Seat Headrest, and my enjoyment of it now has nothing to do w/ whether or not I enjoy it in the future. Just happy to hear non-ironic guitars in music from 2016. Not every artistic statement needs to be profound, not every engagement needs to be critical, and not every opinion needs to be treated like its detrimental to your own.
    Yo. So I really don't mean to be shitting on your interests. That isn't fun or productive. I do think U probably understand where my criticism is coming from and I'm just not the best at articulating it. So whatever. It isn't a big deal.
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    Post by WP64 Sun May 29, 2016 6:14 am

    Basically, just understand, that my anger isn't directed at anyone here but is very general. And it really isn't a personal attack, which is why I mentioned that what I was saying was very mean in parentheses to begin with because I didn't want it to be some aggressive statement or anything.
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    Post by Paves Sun May 29, 2016 12:33 pm

    I find it funny that U write so much of this inane blather at 4:00-5:00 AM.
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    Post by petey Sun May 29, 2016 11:19 pm

    Inane blather???
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    Post by petey Sun May 29, 2016 11:21 pm

    Inane blather???
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    Post by petey Sun May 29, 2016 11:22 pm

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    Post by C-poots Mon May 30, 2016 5:18 am

    Great contributions to this thread again WP! I totally can't understand why that bassist wouldn't want to talk to someone so enjoyable to speak with! He must have been white and played guitars, thats probably the reason. What a lame narrative! HAHA high five!

    I'm sure Drake would have wanted to speak to U at that party. U should keep listening to modern rap and hip hop, 4 sure!
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    Post by zappo Mon May 30, 2016 10:27 am

    reuben wrote:
    Ned Braden wrote: (the best kind of baseball is the kind that isn't modern imo).

    Negro League >>>>>>>> Modern Baseball

    N3gro League*?
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    Post by WP64 Mon May 30, 2016 3:10 pm

    C-poots wrote:Great contributions to this thread again WP! I totally can't understand why that bassist wouldn't want to talk to someone so enjoyable to speak with! He must have been white and played guitars, thats probably the reason. What a lame narrative! HAHA high five!

    I'm sure Drake would have wanted to speak to U at that party. U should keep listening to modern rap and hip hop, 4 sure!
    Never said he would but I would rather be in silence than talk to 30 year old white men about their professional ventures or their excitement about the indie rawk resurgence.

    I'm a dick!
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    Post by jesus jones Mon May 30, 2016 3:18 pm

    man it's so exhausting to be so damn real isn't it
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    Post by vIv Tue May 31, 2016 6:22 pm

    Ned Braden wrote: Herb Alpert

    I have been playing "Rise" at least twice a day 4 the past week, and am much richer 4 the experience.
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    Post by zappo Tue May 31, 2016 6:43 pm

    Ҩ wrote:Peace!

    I clicked on this and my computer got a virus.
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    Post by chrondog Tue May 31, 2016 6:57 pm

    Ҩ wrote:
    Ned Braden wrote:I don't think anybody's being uncritical here. Sounded to me like Miguel K just enjoyed a couple of records. Indie rock these days is just synonymous with pop/rock songs sung by bands with guitars right?
    Seems accurate but fuck is that boring. Not only am I uninterested in hearing it but none of these artists R even capable of explaining why their own projects R interesting. They just end up talking about Jay-Z was a huge influence and how they get melancholic listening to Miley Cyrus.

    This is anecdotal, and I never thought this band was worth a damn to begin with, but I'll never forget the time I met the band Wavves at some shitty college party. I tried to talk to the bassist 4 a little bit because I knew that he recorded with Jay Reatard but it was pretty evident that he wasn't interested. They just kind of stood there like idiots and made shitty jokes about Friends and kept trying to smoke our weed. It was so fucking embarrassing and lame.

    It was basically in that moment that I decided I was totally done with this shit. I think a few months later Ezra Koenig had that stupid Rolling Stone article about Miley Cyrus. Ever since then I absolutely refuse to engage with this shit. I'm content just endlessly exploring the back catalog of legendary artists from yesteryear, figuring out how they thought about their lives and project, and what they were listening to. And when I'm not doing that, I wanna hear "Controlla" by Drake and imagine myself dancing in some club with a bunch of Trinidadians. dubstep dubstep

    man, talk about "gimmicky" and "uncritical"

    your POV on nearly everything is so knee-jerk and lacking in thoughtfulness & perspective, it's jaw dropping

    U could just say that U're not interested in something; instead, U whip up a narrative to attempt to invalidate the opinions of everyone around U and suck all the energy out of the room and into your massive head (U're treading sickeningly close to the angsty contrarianism that was unwillingly my stock-in-trade)

    shit is so tired, fam
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    Post by Duff... Tue May 31, 2016 10:44 pm

    zappo wrote:
    Ҩ wrote:Peace!

    I clicked on this and my computer got a virus.

    Seriously?
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    Post by zappo Tue May 31, 2016 11:48 pm

    I'm not kidding. I took care of it, but really could've done without the hassle.
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    Post by C-poots Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:54 am

    I've been a huge fan of "This Guy's In Love With U" 4 so long but have never delved deeper into the Herb Alpert catalog. Perhaps its time

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